Originally from Manchester.
Nyx I’ve sent you a PM
Farmer Jim1
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Anybody in the North West area of England?
by NyxOfTartarus inwould be nice to know if there is anyone from here attending the assembly in manchester this coming weekend?.
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Anyone like to meet up to compare notes?
by Farmer Jim1 inhi folks, i’m heading off on a road trip of northern uk next week and, living in a very rural place, would be keen to take the opportunity to meet up with any ex-jws/current jws to compare notes on jw and post-jw life.. if anyone is available please pm me.. for the record i’m 18 months out of jw, was a ‘model jw child’ & longtime ms & reg pio.
leaving was the best life decision i ever made!.
regards.
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Farmer Jim1
The Lakes, Lancaster, Manchester, Peak District, North Yorkshire
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Anyone like to meet up to compare notes?
by Farmer Jim1 inhi folks, i’m heading off on a road trip of northern uk next week and, living in a very rural place, would be keen to take the opportunity to meet up with any ex-jws/current jws to compare notes on jw and post-jw life.. if anyone is available please pm me.. for the record i’m 18 months out of jw, was a ‘model jw child’ & longtime ms & reg pio.
leaving was the best life decision i ever made!.
regards.
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Farmer Jim1
Hi folks, I’m heading off on a road trip of Northern UK next week and, living in a very rural place, would be keen to take the opportunity to meet up with any ex-JWs/current JWs to compare notes on JW and post-JW life.
If anyone is available please pm me.
for the record I’m 18 months out of JW, was a ‘model JW child’ & longtime MS & reg pio. Leaving was the best life decision I ever made!
regards
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Time Gained by Leaving JW World
by Farmer Jim1 indoes anyone else wonder at the amount of time a person immediately gains when they leave the jws?.
just today, a sunday, i would have woken up at 7, frantically taken a highlighter pen to my wt to make it look like i had made a deep study of it.
packed my stuff for meeting and ministry, cycled to the kh, joined the pre meeting ministry arrangement, rushed back for the meeting, sat through a sometimes interesting public talk, sometimes mind-numbingly dull one, strained through a wt study to which i usually had more questions than answers.
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Does anyone else wonder at the amount of time a person immediately gains when they leave the JWs?
Just today, a Sunday, I would have woken up at 7, frantically taken a highlighter pen to my WT to make it look like I had made a deep study of it. Packed my stuff for meeting and ministry, cycled to the KH, joined the pre meeting ministry arrangement, rushed back for the meeting, sat through a sometimes interesting public talk, sometimes mind-numbingly dull one, strained through a WT study to which I usually had more questions than answers. Forced some lunch down and rushed out on the afternoon ministry arrangement. Back to KH, get changed, cycle back home knackered and pretty sure that I hadn’t done anything worthwhile with my day until I got out in my garden for some garden- therapy.
The social aspect of it was sometimes nice but all in all Sunday was 8 hours of wasted daylight.
Now, a little lie in on a Sunday, a nice swim in the sea with friends. A little creative writing. Sunday lunch with friends. Sky sports galore! Even time to do some real good for people by supporting a real charity event locally.
no regrets, no disturbing folks on their weekend, no WT indoctrination, no fake friends, no ‘doing it’ to be seen doing it. And that’s just the Sunday benefits of leaving JWs.
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What’s the most effective way to wake the largest amount of JW’s up?
by Farmer Jim1 inwhat can one person do to save as many people as possible from this organisation?.
youtube videos?.
mail shots?.
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Farmer Jim1
What can one person do to save as many people as possible from this organisation?
youtube videos?
mail shots?
visiting Kingdom Halls and planting doubts?
writing a book/collaborating with journalists on articles?
advertising websites such as JW facts and JW survey?
Other methods?
what does everyone think is the most effective way?
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Cong accounts analysis?
by Farmer Jim1 inanyone on here an ex accounts servant?
i’d be interested in a projection of what percentage of contributions come from elderly jw’s.
i.e, money that will be diminishing over next 5 or 10 years as these ones pass on.. i estimate that in one of my previous congs 50% of the contribution totals of approximately £400 each month were being made by the over 70’s demographic.. within the other 50% were pioneers and low paid workers who put in regular but small amounts.. i guess when the accountants ring the alarm bells you start cutting the biggest costs; full time servants, buildings, printed literature.
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Farmer Jim1
Anyone on here an ex accounts servant? I’d be interested in a projection of what percentage of contributions come from elderly JW’s. I.e, money that will be diminishing over next 5 or 10 years as these ones pass on.
i estimate that in one of my previous congs 50% of the contribution totals of approximately £400 each month were being made by the over 70’s demographic.
Within the other 50% were pioneers and low paid workers who put in regular but small amounts.
I guess when the accountants ring the alarm bells you start cutting the biggest costs; full time servants, buildings, printed literature. With the UK member figures now appearing to have peaked and possibly heading into decline I would be surprised if there is anything less than a 50% drop in contributed funds within the next ten years.
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Positive Topic - ‘Good Elders’ or Extra Special Kindness shown by elders
by Farmer Jim1 inafter the last topic getting me mad, does anyone have a positive experience of dealing with an elder or a particular favourite elder that was a top bloke?.
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Farmer Jim1
After the last topic getting me mad, does anyone have a positive experience of dealing with an elder or a particular favourite elder that was a top bloke?
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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?
by UnshackleTheChains ini ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!
what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?
have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.
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And finally(although there is a lot of material in this topic). PO before the last one took me aside and counselled me NOT TO COME to meetings if my spiritually weak wife was not at meeting. Unsure about this but willing to follow elders’ directions I missed countless meetings by following his council. I later hear from several elders that he has been commenting on how disappointed he is because I was missing meetings! I was fuming and ‘took him in a back room’ during the next WT study. He was understandably upset when I tore a strip off him but still didn’t learn his lesson and kept spouting crazy personal opinions instead of scriptural advice. Complete fool, easily the worst elder I have ever come across. Am so mad just thinking about it that I should name & shame him
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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?
by UnshackleTheChains ini ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!
what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?
have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.
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Farmer Jim1
Presiding overseer once took it upon himself to voice his opinions to me and try to pursuade me not to buy a motorbike. Why he thought it was any of his business I’m not sure. Drunk on his own power.
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Do you or did you experience too much intrusion into your personal life by the elders in your congregation?
by UnshackleTheChains ini ask this question because i have personally experienced first hand the control and intrusion into my personal life by the elders at our hall; and for virtually trivial things or non issues!
what's more, i regularly hear of individuals moving to other halls because they were stumbled by the thought police....er, i mean these elders.. have you had any such experience?
have your elders been a bit ott over trivialities?.
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Farmer Jim1
Once had an elder pull me into the KH car park and insist that I no longer speak to or associate with a particular sister in the cong. I told him that was a strange request and asked for more details. He didn’t elaborate, just got more dogmatic about it. I insisted on him giving me a reason as she was a friend and I enjoyed associating with her. He said that she had requested that I no longer talk to her. I knew immediately that it was elder BS. I agreed to comply with the elder and then spoke to the sister the next week. She confirmed that it was BS and didn’t have a clue what it was about. When confronted the elder confessed he had handled things very badly & had some kind of ‘episode’ but did not apologise for bare faced lies he told. To think that I still trusted elders to ‘shepherd me’ after that nonsense!